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This is just a bet of vantage, some of you may agree with it or not, or maybe not even care, or perhaps even learn something.

I hate the way the world has changed and you can't go anywhere with your best friend without people thinking your some gay couple.  Actually its worse!  I can't even go with my brother anywhere without people thinking we are a gay couple.  Hey we just so happen to like to go see the movies at theaters, or go eat somewhere.  Where we grew up that was just what hetero guys do, and brothers got along with each other.  I don't know why all of a sudden people think only gay people do that.

I also hate it when people assume I'm gay because I don't have a girl friend.  I mean what the F#&*$#!!?  Just because I'm not sucking on a girl don't mean I am gay.  I don't suck on a guy either.  I'm not interested in sexual trends at all.  The reason I don't go out with a girl is because I don't want a relation ship.  And most girls don't play games where you blow stuff up.  Why hang out with someone that you have nothing in common?

Now to get things straight, I don't have a problem with gay or bi people as a person.  I only have a problem with there sexual ways.  I see it as un-natural and a sinful style of life.  However I will not treat them any different because All are sinners in some way or form, Even me, so I must not judge them.  Otherwise I'm just a hypocrite that should also be judged by God himself.  And besides, I know several people here on DA that are Bi or gay.  Other than that life style, they are nice people to talk to.

However what really burns me is when they are always in your face about there ways.  Not all of them do this, but many do.  Some even try to get laws changed.  They say they want the same rights as others but they already do, they just want more attention.  Others try to make it a hate crime when they get hurt by a hetero guy so they get judged more fiercely.  But aren't all crimes against people hate crimes technically?  And most of all, taking down the "Don't Ask and Don't Tell" policy.  I think people are confused about that.  Because that was done to protect both kinds of people.  There were always gays and bis in the military.  They always have served equally as any other solder.  But the hetero does not need to know that the guy he is sleeping next to is a gay.  There is absolutely no reason anyone needs to know your sexual orientation in the military.  They are there to defend the country, not find a mate and screw.  And some hereto in the military are crazy and might bring harm to a person when he misunderstands a touch. I find that the only reason they took Don't Ask Don't Tell off is because the gay community wants attention and force the hereto to accept there life style as normal.  They don't care how uncomfortable it makes a man that sleeps in a tight barracks with a bunch of other men.

Well that is about it.  Don't know how many of you would have read the whole thing, some may stopped reading when they thought this was going to be "offensive" and stormed off mad.  And the way the word offensive is being played now had me mad too.  Whether offensive or not, truth is truth.  I swear sometimes I don't think I'm human, because of the why people act.  But to those that so happen to be gay or bi, I sure like to hear that not all gays shove there life style in everyone's face.  And understand, I don't hate any of you as a person.  Heck several of the people I talk to alot are bi.
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Uzuharu-Ninja Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012
-thumbs up-

We should talk more often Kiyo. We think a lot alike.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012
thanks, yeah this world is messd up.
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the1SAR Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I've never been in that situation before, but... I get what you mean. I like hanging out with my sister, and I don't have a boyfriend. People shouldn't assume someone's gay by who they hang out with.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
That's right.
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vcgal123 Featured By Owner May 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly, the way I see it, the world defines the word 'offensive' as 'personal opinion'.

I totally get where you're coming at bro, I really do. I do however sit on the other side of the fence on the opinion (I am not a lesbian myself, but two of my best friends are) but hey, I don't dissagree with you. A lot of the this shit out there on gays is just for attention, and yeah, it's really fucking stupid.

I wish I had some example to offer like Seraph-sama down in the comments, but sadly I don't. I guess all I really want to say is that even if you and I don't sit on the same side of the gay argument, I agree with your opinion and I think you have every rage to rant about it like this, for lack of a better word. I am a virign too, and I'll be eighteen this summer, and where I live, it's rare to be a virign at fifteen, let alone eighteen, but I suppose it's worse in bigger cities.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I think you get the general idea of it ^^

Im fine with gays as long as they don't harass me.
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vcgal123 Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
And that's good. The biggest issue with hate crimes, those to do with gays, is that people just don't see gays as people. If you don't want to support homosexual relationships, that's totally up to you; it's the people who hate the person because of nothing but their sexuality that I dissagree with.

Kind off topic, but that's alright.
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Seraph-sama Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Dude, I know EXACTLY the feel. I don't have a girlfriend mostly because I never really cared about it. I wonder why this stupid society thinks that i must bang a girl every 5 seconds to prove I'm a man otherwise I would be gay. My OWN SISTER asked me if I was gay just because I never dated.
As for the religious aspect of it (I don't know how is your spiritual side, but I'll tell you how is mine), I want to be a virgin when I get married (23 year old virgin straight males are rare these days) and I don't have anything against homossexuals, in fact catholicism says that gay people should be treated with kindness and love (the only thing that is wrong is the ACT not the person). But many "Catholics" don't know their own belief and go saying retarded things like "God hates homossexuals" (He only hates the ACT, not the homossexual). The funny thing is that when I say that to people their first reaction is "sexual drive is a natural instinct of any human. Deny that is wrong" and my answer is always "I love candies, chocolates and everything sweet, but I know it damages my body because I have diabetes. So I must eat candies because I have the desire or should I use my brain and get a hold of my actions?"
I hope this helped somehow.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
The Christian way is the same about that, but like you said, not all live up that way. And I am a virgin as well. And I will remain as so.

Now that candy thing is a good one, I have to remember that one. You should totally post that up or something.
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Seraph-sama Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Thanks. It's just that we have lots of desires all the time to do myriad of things (whether they're good or bad), but we ultimately have the final choice if we'll fulfill the desire or not.
I think there wouldn't be such a clash between christians and atheists if BOTH sides stop attacking each other and start dialoguing and respecting each other's life choices.
My best friend is agnostic and I think of him as my brother and we deeply respect each other's choices. people with different views can live peacifully with each other.
God bless you.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
That is all true. I always think, why can't people work together, and why do we have to have war all the time. but there are people that attack and we must defend.
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Seraph-sama Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I agree. Mutual respect does not equal take shit quietly either.
Gays, bi and straight people already have the same rights. If someone murders anyone based on their believes and choices is already a hate crime, as you said. The thing is that some people are trying to choke anyone who thinks differently. It reminds me of the episode "Death Camp of tolerance" of the cartoon South Park. Curiously, the episode explains that respect does not equal accept everything that are forced towards us.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Exactly, couldn't say it better my self.
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Macabre-Kaiser Featured By Owner May 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The most simple and summed up answer to what's wrong with people today is, stupidity. People are afraid of what they don't understand, and because of that, they shun them.

Hell, look at me. In high school, I wasn't interested in girls. When I told my dad that, he automatically assumed I was gay. I told him that I wasn't gay and I did not want to get into a relationship so early in life because in all honesty, I don't have the money for it. Also, one of my good friends is gay. He admits it, and he's not afraid to show it, but, he understands that there are boundaries. He knows I'm straight, and he respects that.

About the hate crime thing. It is considered a hate crime. Gays don't want more attention from it. There are many cases of violent acts towards a gay person, just because the victim was gay.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
Now me being in the Air Force, I believe it was morale issues. Not entirely sure though, but it doesn't matter. The military and the training that every member went through was to make them tolerate just about anything. Hell, you had to shower with 10-15 other guys at once. Try getting used to that. If there were gay people involved, everyone had to get used to it. The gays had to learn to restrain themselves, while the straight had to overcome the awkwardness of their presence.

All in all, a lot of people in this country and maybe the world are just afraid of change. They have to get used to it. It is something that will not go away just because they want it to. But the biggest drawback is, You can't fix stupid.

This world is overpopulated by the wrong kind of people.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
This is a well thought out reply.

And yes people are afraied of change, sometimes the change is no big deal, and others are a real big deal that will effect the quality of life. Now as of right now I don't think homosexuality would effect quality of life. actually if everyone was gay, we would stop popping out a million babes a second. But however, Islam trying to get Sharia Law into American courts is a change that should be alarming. All ready there are several States that accept Sharia Law. You being in the airforce, you probably have an idea what it is like in Islamic lands.
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Macabre-Kaiser Featured By Owner May 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm currently in Afghanistan. Imagine the culture shock. XD
But this is new to me about Sharia Law, I don't get news updates over here, too busy with work.
It's one thing for a religious group to exist in our country, but when you push your beliefs in someone's face, forcefully might I add, is going too far.

Really glad you post journals like this. Honestly, I really like to share my opinions when it comes to politics and current events. Not many people my age are even interested on this subject, and I'm only 20.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
Yeah I hate it when they do that too. and many of the hard core Muslims are like "accept or die" But since people are blind and think it will never happen, Islam is in our school systems and will soon convert the USA into a Islamic nation.

It makes me real mad because, if you want to be a culture, then go live where that culture is, don't be converting everyone else!
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Vixie-Reynard Featured By Owner May 22, 2012
I can't really blame homosexuals for wanting a few extra rights to protect them. Especially since many homosexuals are beaten, bullied, humiliated, spat on, and shunned by their own families and peers. Not to mention the individuals who took their own lives just to escape the torment brought upon them by people who have the nerve to call themselves "Christians."

I'm sorry, but as a follower of Christ with homosexual friends and family, it bothers me that you seem to think of homosexuals as (for lack of a better word) "trolls."
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I don't think all of them are trolls. But many times I find out that they do things like shutting down a small photo shoot company because they did not want to take photos of a gay couple doing gay things. "I don't know what they wanted to do exactly, it may been like kissing." But company's have the right to refuse service. So instead of just going down the street to people that would do it. they put the man and everyone in that company out of work and sued them. So yeah, gays that do stuff like that I would call trolls, because they had plenty of other options.
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Vixie-Reynard Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
That's still an example of discrimination. It could be likened to someone refusing someone else service just because they were black. It's just frustrating to demonize a group of people for something they can't help.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Would you like to be forced to do something that you hate to do with every fiber of your bing. and that man told them where that couple could go to get it done. He was very nice about it, he just told them that they don't do that stuff there.

For example, I wont draw porn. should I be put in jail for discrimination against people that like porn?
I won't draw two guys kissing each other. I been asked a few times, and I denied it politely. Should I be band for doing that? I'm I wrong for doing that?
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Vixie-Reynard Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
If it's a content issue, then I understand. If it was strictly because the business always denies services to homosexuals or other minorities, then it's discrimination.

Look, I just don't like it when the majority of a culture is given a bad name by the actions of a few. I don't like that some people see all homosexuals as godless, hedonistic sodomites. Not everything is about sex.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Well that's what it was. it was a content issue, not what they are. If they just wanted a photo shoot not kissing or what ever it was, then they would have done it.

Now if you followed what I have said, You would know I don't have anything against the person themselvs. I talk to bi and gay people all the time. in fact alot of the people that I do commissions for are bi. They just don't ask me to draw gay porno, because they know I won't do that, and they still respect me. Some of the characters they commission me to do are bi, but they arn't doing gay things in the pic, so I do it.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I said we should not treat them any different. but a crime is a crime and does not need to be amplified just because a particular group is special.
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Vixie-Reynard Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Perhaps, but we shouldn't deny them rights either.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
what rights is that?
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Vixie-Reynard Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Well the right to have a family, for one. They have as much of a right as anyone to be able to be happy, without being embarrassed of who they are.

African Americans protested for the rights they have now. Why can't homosexuals be allowed to protest for theirs?
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Well that one is a testy right to figuer out. I have debates about the family thing with my self. I see and agree with both sides on that. figer that one out. LOL

Yes African Americans should have the same rights. However today they have more rights than white people do. In some states if a company is hiring and a white guy and black guy come to interview, by law the company has to pick the black guy even if the white one is more qualified. and the black can not ever be fired otherwise a law suit of discrimination is filed. I know, I worked in offices before. Also if a white person and a black person have the same bad financial situation and try to apply for food stamps, the black is more likely to get it what the white one is denied. In fact many black family's have been on food stamps and well fair for generations and many of them don't work. I can go on and on about what the blacks have become in the results of how the government has given them special rights. Keep in mind, there are blacks that do work hard for a living and don't take anything from the government.

I say this as a guide line of what could happen, because it already has happen with a group of people. And there are a bunch of other groups that are making noise wanting more rights.

Yes all people are equle and should be so, but that is not what has been going on.
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Vixie-Reynard Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
The GLBT community probably wouldn't be so vocal about this if people would just accept that they're there, and have as much a right as they do to be treated like regular human beings.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 24, 2012
Well we are driving away from what this conversation is originally about. I been talking about what I find most annoying. certain things they cause and certain things they do. If they did not do all that, I don't care who they sleep with, it aint my business.
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JadenItanenn Featured By Owner May 22, 2012
Well.. after rereading it.. I have to agree with everything you've said. As For the Don't Ask Don't tell thing.. its not that the government it self wants gay's or bi's in the military [I'm pretty damn sure they don't care] its the people in the Military, those who Are crazy who don't [and there is enough of them].

As for rights... I honestly don't give a fuck if they can or can not marry. That's the only thing that should even affect them...

And just a random question, what about those people who are sure what they are? Like me, who has been interested in guys and girls but has never found one to actually be with. [so yea, People have thought I'm gay because I Don't feel like having a romantic relationship in high school with anyone.] And as far as my knowledge goes....my friends [3 other guys anyway XD] all go out to movies, parks, their houses, the town, all the time and they haven't been called gay once...again... as far as I know.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I don't think I completely comprehend your question?
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JadenItanenn Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I don't believe I asked a question .-. Just stated what I know.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Oh, okay ^^
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GUNRAPT0R Featured By Owner May 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Let me go back to the things I learned in philosophy class, "live your life the way that makes you content" Who gives a shit about what people think about you. People who discriminate others arn't even human fucking being. Yes, I agree with your opinion about homosexuality. I consider myself to be a asexual, as it was a common genetic trait among my ancestors. I don't even think or desire sex, just the way how my life will be. Ones ego shouldn't be pushed down to another.

We all deserve the same rights. People put you down because you live the way that doesn't make others "happy"? Fuck that. Live your life and let it flow. When suffering happens, accept it so that you'll learn something valuable.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
You mean you reproduce by yourself? how did you do that? I'm sure that's what asexual means.

But of course you do know that some peoples idea of being content is committing rape and other crimes, there alot of people real sick in the head. What about those?

Just making sure you completely understand the idea of some of these philosophy's people have been picking up lately.
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GUNRAPT0R Featured By Owner May 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No, asexuality is also a type of sexual orientation. Scientifically you are correct.

And that's where morality comes in, do not worry. I am much prepared. How should one act is the question and I have learned many philosophies.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Well some say that homosexuality is against morality. So define morality.
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GUNRAPT0R Featured By Owner May 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Morality is just a system of behavior regarding to standards of an individual's right or wrong behavior.
There are many branches of it and I don't want to list them all because there are too many.

How you see life or reality is all projected in your mind. You are upset or are suffering because of your ego (desire). And if you want to end it, then you must put your ego aside. I am not talking about the religious point of view of Buddhism, but the philosophical point of view and that's where it came from. If you still want to get your point across, be rational. A philosopher named Martin Heidegger came up with "Gelassenheit", which means let things be or submission to will of God.
It's simple, everything is right in front of you.

Just focus on your life, if you are still having issues. Just pray to God because I am no longer able to help you at this point.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Its a definition that humans tamper with to make what they do okay. and ban what they don't like
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GUNRAPT0R Featured By Owner May 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Just because something is so popular doesn't mean it's right"
Keep those words in mind friend.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
But that goes against everyone.
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LightningTheFox7 Featured By Owner May 22, 2012
I agree with the most of it, as for the religion thing i think is the most goofy stupid thing of all... if doing "gay things* is sinful then why did god make gays in the first place obviously he knew this was going to happen, if someone murdered your family god would want you to forgive that person so why should he give a crap... I go to church every Sunday and haven't burst into flames

I think they should have all the same rights there is no reason not to, though i do agree they don't need to be in your face about it.

In Canada we have gays and bis in the military and they can be a open as they want no problems there
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Yes God made the people that are gay. He also made Satin. Satin was the most beautiful angel and was second in command. But he rebels, and we know what the bible says about Satin.
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LightningTheFox7 Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Yes and he also made priests who rape small children and yet thats all hush personally i think the catholic faith has been corrupted and they need to find something better to do with their time annd focus on actual things that matter
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
Yes, unfortunately there are preachers that go corrupt and use the church to get fame and glory for themselves. But they eventually fall and will answer to God in the end.
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I did not say you would burst into flames

They do all have the same rights

and of course you don't here about problems. they wouldn't broadcast problems. and anything against gays is considered a hate crime.
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LightningTheFox7 Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I know but u make it sound like god hates all gays well i go to church and hes bee really good to me so i can sagely say he really does not care remember hes supose to love you no matter what

actually no because we dont have any problems your us military is just living in the dark ages and homophobic
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Lord-Kiyo Featured By Owner May 23, 2012
I did not. I explained that sin is sin and is all equal and we are all sinners one and the same. Thus we should treat each other with respect. I am just as filthy as anyone. Did you not read that part?
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Poohthehedgehog24 Featured By Owner May 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
not trying to but in but.. Obama is ok with gays being married...at first it was a problem because of Joe biden who i would say is a Dick because why should u care in the first place
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